More Spam than Scam, but still….

Dodge Dart on Craigslist

Dodge Dart on Craigslist

We’ve been selling cars and motorbikes recently on CraigsList and have noticed a pattern – someone replies to the ad expressing interest and asking all the right kind of questions, but always include ‘Do you have a VIN report on the {vehicle}?’. A fair enough question, but when you reply in the negative, they quickly reply back with a message something like this:

“If you don’t have one I would appreciate if you could obtain it from bike… They are much more reliable and cheaper than others, such as carfax and autocheck. I am very interested in your ride but I have to check it our first. All the data I need is on the report. If everything is good, I would like to meet you on Sunday if it’s good with you.”

The message is chatty and holds out the hope of a successful purchase, but after getting two or three of these I saw the red flags.

The domain names change but I suspect the underlying organization is the same. If you see this kind of solicitation [on Craigslist], hit the ‘Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other):’ link and maybe these people will start going away.

As I said, not a scam as such, more of a spam solicitation, disguised as a potential buyer and as such, a time waster. If you are interested in getting this information, then the following might help you decide whether the cost is worth it:

The federal government offers VIN checks, free of charge, through the National Insurance Crime Bureau, which provides data on the vehicle’s current state of title and last title date, brand history, odometer reading, total loss history, and salvage history. The VINCheck tool permits five searches within a 24-hour period per IP address. Note that records can take up to six months to appear in the federal database and only show up if the event was recorded by an insurance company. Meanwhile, you can plug the VIN into the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s database to find out if a vehicle has been recalled.
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So, before you respond to a request like this, strongly suspect that the person is more interested in getting you to sign up for their (possibly) bogus service than buying your ‘1974 Dodge Dart Swinger’!

Update 10 Dec 2017
So another one came just today. If I get this many within the space of two weeks then this must be a bot-operation. Craigslist should be made aware of these spam-soliciations. The text of this one reads:

"Thanks for contacting me back. That bike looks like you maintained it regularly. I would like to find out more about it, however. Do you have history report for it?
Respectfully yours, Amanda Heater"

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One response to “More Spam than Scam, but still….”

  1. My name is Alis78Ron. I run an automobile scam on a popular app called Let Go. What I do is screenshot a camper or RV. Then save to my computer and post to Let Go. Voila!

    You will recognize my scam because the asking price is ridiculously lower than the actual value. If you click on my profile, you will see that I sell the same one vehicle in several states, and there are duplicate listings.

    Finally, I never communicate on the app and insist you e-mail me at the bogus gmail email I set up in my name. Once you contact me I will give you a sob story and ask you to wire money. I promise to ship the vehicle but it never happens.

    I will keep scamming people until they figure out my con game…or karma finally gets me.

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